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The biggest issue for EMF is to find a good site.
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'''UPDATE: A site has been picked for EMF 2014: Newton Longville, near Milton Keynes'''
  
 
=Requirements=
 
=Requirements=
 
# Site
 
# Site
## At least 50,000 sq m (this should fit at least 1500 people but this isn't indicative of our planned capacity)
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## At least 50,000 sq m/13 acres (this should fit at least 1500 people but this isn't indicative of our planned capacity)
## Available for around 11 days (including a weekend) between mid-July and mid-September 2014
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## Available for around 11 days (including a weekend) between mid-July and mid-September 2014 (Our setup requirements may be reduced based on available facilities)
 
## Pleasant enough you actually want to spend time there
 
## Pleasant enough you actually want to spend time there
## Previous event history at site
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## (Ideally) previous event history at site
 
# Access and Location
 
# Access and Location
 
## Good access for setup vehicles (no low bridges, for example)
 
## Good access for setup vehicles (no low bridges, for example)
 
## Good transport links (proximity to public transport)
 
## Good transport links (proximity to public transport)
## Located centrally to the UK
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## (Ideally) located centrally to the UK
## Near largish shops (e.g. large Tesco)
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## (Ideally) near largish shops (e.g. large supermarket)
 
# Facilities
 
# Facilities
## Ability to get a good internet connection (1 gigabit+) (but please let us know of any potential sites - NOC team can work this out)
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## Ability to get a good internet connection (our minimum requirement is 1 gigabit symmetrical, ideally with a layer 2 backhaul to our routers in London, but please let us know of any potential sites and our NOC team can work this out)
## Some kind of water supply/sewage connection
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## (Ideally) Some kind of water supply/sewage connection
 
## Well drained
 
## Well drained
 
## Space for parking
 
## Space for parking
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* Most existing facilities (especially electricity). Providing them ourselves is frequently easier than trying to deal with existing services, so they're not a major consideration.
 
* Most existing facilities (especially electricity). Providing them ourselves is frequently easier than trying to deal with existing services, so they're not a major consideration.
  
=Candidate Sites=
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=Dates To Avoid=
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See [[Potential dates]]
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=Site Suggestions=
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If you have a suggestion for a site, drop us an email on contact@emfcamp.org, [http://twitter.com/emfcamp tweet at us], drop into [[IRC]], or just leave it here.
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Log in/create an account and hit Edit to add a site here.
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== Suggest a site ==
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* Sample site SW1A 1AA http://example.com/
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* http://www.thesocialfestival.com/home
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* http://www.lincoln.gov.uk/visitor-and-leisure/parks-and-open-spaces/hartsholme-country-park/
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* http://www.wellington-country-park.co.uk/venue-hire/the-waterloo-meadow/
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* http://www.staffscountyshowground.co.uk/
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* http://www.weston-park.com/
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* Coventry scout campsite/activity centre CV7 7DD http://www.roughclose.btck.co.uk/
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* Towcester racecourse NN12 6LB http://www.towcester-racecourse.co.uk/
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* Castle Coombe Circuit SN14 7EY http://www.castlecombecircuit.co.uk/
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* Stonleigh Park CV8 2LZ http://www.stoneleighpark.com/
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* ex RAF Honiley site (now Prodrive/Marcos/TRW) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Honiley http://www.prodrive.com/
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* Lulworth Castle BH20 5QS http://www.lulworth.com/castle_park/castle_park.htm
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* Larmer Tree Gardens SP5 5PT http://www.larmertreegardens.co.uk
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* Cheltenham Racecourse - http://www.cheltenham.co.uk/conference-and-events/
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* Hylands Park - http://www.chelmsford.gov.uk/hylands-park-0
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* Paccar Scout Campsite - http://www.paccarscoutcamp.org/
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* Elvington Airfield, York. http://www.elvingtonairfield.co.uk/services
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* Crystal Palace Park, SE19 2GA http://www.bromley.gov.uk/directory/4/parks_in_bromley
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== Previously suggested sites (currently investigating) ==
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* Colerne Airfield (RAF) SN14 8ED
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* Turnpost Farm LE12 6SU
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* Donington Park DE74 2RP
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* Baldersby Park YO7 3BZ
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* Royal Welsh Showground LD2 3SY
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* Merton Farm CT4 7BA
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* Moreton-in-Marsh Fire College GL56 0RH
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* Upper Heyford (RAF) OX25 5HA
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* Newbury Showground RG18 9QZ
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* Bentwaters Parks (RAF) IP12 2TW
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* Telford International Centre TF3 4JH
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* Greenham Common (RAF) RG19 6HN
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* Debden House IG10 2NZ
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* Newbury Racecourse RG14 7NZ
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* Butterley Station DE5 3QZ
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* Hainault Forest Country Park IG7 4QN
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* Uppingham School LE15 9QE
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* Long Marston (RAF) CV37 8LL
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* Tolmers Scout Camp EN6 4JS
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* West Dean Gardens PO18 0QZ
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* Doncaster Racecourse DN2 6BB
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* Three Counties Showground WR13 6NW
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* Welbeck Estate S80 3LL
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* Newark Showground NG24 2NY
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* Pickering Showground YO18 8EA
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* Norfolk Showground NR5 0TT
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* Matterley Bowl SO21 1HW
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* Eastnor Castle HR8 1RL
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* Great Yorkshire Showground HG2 8NZ
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* East of England Showground PE2 6XE
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* Syresham Fields Farm NN13 5TR
  
Some of this is copied from our [http://wiki.london.hackspace.org.uk/view/Project:UK_Hack_Camp/Candidate_sites previous search]
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== Rejected sites for 2013 ==
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* Newbury West RG20 0HA
! Site Name
 
! Contact
 
! Details
 
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| Colerne Airfield, Wiltshire (nr Bath)
 
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| Owned by a company of a friend of London Hackspace
 
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| [http://www.profounddecisions.co.uk/wicket/bookmarkable/uk.co.profounddecisions.website.pages.pdpages.event.tournamentstud.DirectionsTournamentStud?4 Profound Decisions location], Banbury
 
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| Quite a lot of existing facilities here which we may be able to use. These guys provided our tents in 2012 and seem pretty keen.
 
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| [http://eventcentre.co.uk/organisers Yorkshire Event Centre, Harrogate]
 
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| Site of the Great Yorkshire Show which has massive farm equipment so access is probably fine. Has event spaces, big outside areas, loads of parking. Sainsburys effectively on site. From memory, drainage is OK.
 
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| Turnpost Farm, Leicestershire
 
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| Location of Glastonbudget.  About 4 miles from Loughborough.  Not sure of parking and amenities, but Glastonbudget has about 12,000 people so likely to be plenty of space if we can use some of that as car park
 
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| [http://www.peterborougharena.com/ Peterborough Arena and Showground]
 
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| Seems very accessible by all sorts of vehicles and good public transport links.  Arena has internet, so should be easy to roll out to the showgrounds.  Close to Peterborough for shops and things.
 
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| [http://www.newarkshowground.com/ Newark Showground]
 
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| Similar to Peterborough I guess.  Perhaps a tad large. 84 acres, fenced, good drainage, a range of indoor spaces (max 4000 capacity), 2 miles from train station (2h15 from kings x), lots of parking, in house catering available
 
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| [http://www.doncaster-racecourse.co.uk/events/outdoorevents/ Doncaster Racecourse]
 
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| Facilities look strong, including [http://www.digitalregion.co.uk/ digital region] connection via a very friendly local ISP. Maybe too small, and races on all the time?
 
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| [http://www.pickeringshowground.co.uk/ Pickering Showground]
 
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| Looks like a nice spot, hosts a music festival.
 
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| [https://plus.google.com/109412933278853270069/about?hl=en Baldersby Park, Thirsk]
 
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| Location for deershed festival. Finding out more details..
 
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| [http://www.threecounties.co.uk/venuehire/ Three Counties Showground]
 
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| Has a camping area which is 7 acres and available to hire separately.  It has power, toilets and showers already on site, and plenty of other space to hire alongside it.
 
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| [http://www.tolmers.org.uk/about-tolmers Tolmers Camp Site], EN6 4JS
 
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| Too much of a scout camp?
 
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| [http://www.rwas.co.uk/society Royal Welsh Show Ground]
 
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| In Builth Wells, decent sized site with camping and inside space, Difficult to get to by train (4 trains a day, via Swansea or Shewsbury)
 
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| Merton Farm
 
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| Site of [http://loungeonthefarm.co.uk Lounge on the Farm] festival and [http://www.kentbeerfestival.com/ Kent Beer Festival]. Multiple fields, so can scale a bit (season dependant). Barn available for large lectures/performances. Other "stages" would need to be outdoors. HS1 rail link to Canterbury West from STP (approx 1 hour) standard from VIC to Canterbury East (approx 1 hour 45 minutes), shuttle bus would be required.
 
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| [http://www.norfolkshowground.co.uk/ Norfolk Showground], NR5 0TT
 
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| [http://www.landforevents.co.uk/whitchurch.html Whitcurch], RG28 7LZ
 
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| [http://www.fireservicecollege.ac.uk/events.aspx Moreton-in-Marsh Fire College]
 
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| Old airfield, now used for fire training. They have a conference centre with accommodation, canteen and two bars. Station nearby.
 
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| [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Marston_Airfield Long Marston Airfield]
 
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| [http://www.landforevents.co.uk/newburywest.html Newbury West], RG20 0HA
 
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| Definitely a farm, poor access, next to A34.
 
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| [http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=upper+heyford Upper Heyford]
 
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| Old airfield, now used for offices.
 
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| [http://www.newburyshowground.co.uk/ Newbury Showground], RG18 9QC
 
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| [http://www.eastnorcastle.com/ Eastnor castle], HR8 1RL
 
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| [http://www.bentwatersparks.com/ Bent Waters Parks], IP12 2TW
 
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| [http://www.southwatereventgroup.com/the-international-centre Telford International Centre]
 
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| New site of Multiplay.
 
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| Greenham? RG19 6HN
 
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| Good area to look for sites (but no camping on the common).
 
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| [http://www.matterleyestate.com/ Matterley Bowl], SO21 1HW
 
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| They have plenty of space and good facilities, concerns were raised about the venue's limited number of licenses per year, however Peveril Bruce the owner is happy to talk about hosting us.
 
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| [http://www.redbridge.gov.uk/cms/leisure_and_libraries/leisure/parks_and_open_spaces/list_of_parks_and_open_spaces/hainault_forest_country_park.aspx  Hainault Forest Country Park], IG7 4QN
 
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| Offset festival is held here (although that setup isn't possible any more). [[Media:Hainault_site_plan_2012.pdf|Site plan]], [http://goo.gl/fkwy0 Streetview]
 
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| [http://www.debdenhouse.com/ Debden House]
 
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| They have a very large campsite with power hookup for tents (relaxed rules), an in door conference centre, easy to drive to, but just outside of London with good public transport links.
 
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| [http://www.newbury-racecourse.co.uk/Conferences---Events/Venue-Map-Capacity Newbury racecourse]
 
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| Multiplay have used them in the past, had camping, lots of interior space, and fast internets.
 
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| [http://www.donington-park.co.uk/ Donington]
 
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| [http://www.midlandrailway-butterley.co.uk/home/ Midland Railway]
 
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| Site of indietracks festival
 
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| [http://www.welbeck.co.uk/ Welbeck Estate]
 
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| Site of No Direction Home
 
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| [http://www.westdean.org.uk/Garden/Home.aspx West Dean]
 
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| Has held (small) festivals before
 
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| ADD MORE! :)
 
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=Candidate Sites=
  
==Rejected Sites==
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We're now managing candidate sites in Trello. Please contact [[User:Russ|Russ]] or grab someone on [[IRC]] if you want to help out with this process!
{|class="wikitable sortable"
 
! Site Name
 
! Details
 
! Reason
 
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| Overstone Scout Campsite, Northampton
 
| Got water, showers and toilets. Not the flattest. May be too small.
 
| Too small (30k sq m)
 
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| [http://www.theparkstrust.com/whats-on/organising-your-own-event Milton Keynes Parks Trust], MK
 
| Site of EMF2012
 
| Access to site under low bridge
 
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| [http://www.the-observatory.org/ The Observatory Science Centre]
 
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| Only one event per year
 
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| [http://www.bovingdonairfield.co.uk/ Bovingdon Airfield]
 
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| Contact not interested in our event. Cable in surrounding area
 
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| Essex University
 
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| Don't want large public festivals
 
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| [http://www.essexoutdoors.org/mersea.php Mersea Youth Camp]  
 
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| Too small, and they're not keen.
 
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| [http://www.bletchleypark.org.uk/ Bletchley Park]
 
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| Too small
 
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| [http://www.dorsetadventure.co.uk/ Poole & Dorset Adventure Centre]
 
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| limited to about 20 people indoors and 30 in tents
 
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| [http://www.jb.man.ac.uk/ Jodrell Bank]
 
| Radio free zone
 
| Would be difficult to organise under those conditions
 
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Latest revision as of 08:14, 13 January 2014

UPDATE: A site has been picked for EMF 2014: Newton Longville, near Milton Keynes

Requirements

  1. Site
    1. At least 50,000 sq m/13 acres (this should fit at least 1500 people but this isn't indicative of our planned capacity)
    2. Available for around 11 days (including a weekend) between mid-July and mid-September 2014 (Our setup requirements may be reduced based on available facilities)
    3. Pleasant enough you actually want to spend time there
    4. (Ideally) previous event history at site
  2. Access and Location
    1. Good access for setup vehicles (no low bridges, for example)
    2. Good transport links (proximity to public transport)
    3. (Ideally) located centrally to the UK
    4. (Ideally) near largish shops (e.g. large supermarket)
  3. Facilities
    1. Ability to get a good internet connection (our minimum requirement is 1 gigabit symmetrical, ideally with a layer 2 backhaul to our routers in London, but please let us know of any potential sites and our NOC team can work this out)
    2. (Ideally) Some kind of water supply/sewage connection
    3. Well drained
    4. Space for parking

We don't care about:

  • Most existing facilities (especially electricity). Providing them ourselves is frequently easier than trying to deal with existing services, so they're not a major consideration.

Dates To Avoid

See Potential dates

Site Suggestions

If you have a suggestion for a site, drop us an email on contact@emfcamp.org, tweet at us, drop into IRC, or just leave it here.

Log in/create an account and hit Edit to add a site here.

Suggest a site

Previously suggested sites (currently investigating)

  • Colerne Airfield (RAF) SN14 8ED
  • Turnpost Farm LE12 6SU
  • Donington Park DE74 2RP
  • Baldersby Park YO7 3BZ
  • Royal Welsh Showground LD2 3SY
  • Merton Farm CT4 7BA
  • Moreton-in-Marsh Fire College GL56 0RH
  • Upper Heyford (RAF) OX25 5HA
  • Newbury Showground RG18 9QZ
  • Bentwaters Parks (RAF) IP12 2TW
  • Telford International Centre TF3 4JH
  • Greenham Common (RAF) RG19 6HN
  • Debden House IG10 2NZ
  • Newbury Racecourse RG14 7NZ
  • Butterley Station DE5 3QZ
  • Hainault Forest Country Park IG7 4QN
  • Uppingham School LE15 9QE
  • Long Marston (RAF) CV37 8LL
  • Tolmers Scout Camp EN6 4JS
  • West Dean Gardens PO18 0QZ
  • Doncaster Racecourse DN2 6BB
  • Three Counties Showground WR13 6NW
  • Welbeck Estate S80 3LL
  • Newark Showground NG24 2NY
  • Pickering Showground YO18 8EA
  • Norfolk Showground NR5 0TT
  • Matterley Bowl SO21 1HW
  • Eastnor Castle HR8 1RL
  • Great Yorkshire Showground HG2 8NZ
  • East of England Showground PE2 6XE
  • Syresham Fields Farm NN13 5TR

Rejected sites for 2013

  • Newbury West RG20 0HA

Candidate Sites

We're now managing candidate sites in Trello. Please contact Russ or grab someone on IRC if you want to help out with this process!